diff --git a/src/core/bot_actions.rs b/src/core/bot_actions.rs
index 8941654..c7ec0c5 100644
--- a/src/core/bot_actions.rs
+++ b/src/core/bot_actions.rs
@@ -5,40 +5,83 @@ use tokio::sync::RwLock;
 
 use crate::core::botinstance::BotInstance;
 
-use super::{botmodules::{BotAction, BotModule}, identity::ChatBadge};
+use super::{botinstance::Channel, botmodules::{BotAction, BotModule, Routine}, identity::ChatBadge};
 
 
 pub type BotAR = Arc<RwLock<BotInstance>>;
 pub type ActAR = Arc<RwLock<BotAction>>;
+pub type RoutineAR = Arc<RwLock<Routine>>;
 
-#[derive(Clone)]
+#[derive(Clone, Debug)]
 pub struct ExecBodyParams {
     pub bot : BotAR,
     pub msg : PrivmsgMessage,
-    pub parent_act : ActAR , 
+    pub parent_act : Option<ActAR> , 
+    pub curr_act : ActAR ,
 }
 
 
 impl ExecBodyParams {
 
-    pub async fn get_parent_module(&self) -> Option<BotModule> {
+    // pub async fn get_parent_module(&self) -> Option<BotModule> {
+    // pub async fn get_parent_module(&self) -> BotModule {
+    pub async fn get_module(&self) -> BotModule {
 
-        let parent_act = Arc::clone(&self.parent_act);
-        let parent_act_lock = parent_act.read().await;
+        let curr_act = Arc::clone(&self.curr_act);
+        let parent_act_lock = curr_act.read().await;
         let act = &(*parent_act_lock);
         match act {
             BotAction::C(c) => {
-                let temp = c.module.clone();
-                Some(temp)
+                // let temp = c.module.clone();
+                // Some(temp)
+                c.module.clone()
             },
             BotAction::L(l) => {
-                let temp = l.module.clone();
-                Some(temp)
+                // let temp = l.module.clone();
+                // Some(temp)
+                l.module.clone()
             },
-            _ => None
+            BotAction::R(r) => {
+                // let temp = r.module.clone();
+                // Some(temp)
+                r.read().await.module.clone()
+            }
+            // _ => None
         }
     }
 
+    pub async fn get_channel(&self) -> Option<Channel> {
+
+        // THIS IS INCORRECT - BELOW MAY BE PULLING THE PARENT BOTACTION
+        // NOT THE CURRENT BOT ACTION
+
+
+        let curr_act = Arc::clone(&self.curr_act);
+        let parent_act_lock = curr_act.read().await;
+        let act = &(*parent_act_lock);
+        match act {
+            BotAction::C(_) => {
+                // let temp = c.module.clone();
+                // Some(temp)
+                Some(Channel(self.msg.channel_login.clone()))
+            },
+            BotAction::L(_) => {
+                // let temp = l.module.clone();
+                // Some(temp)
+                // l.module.clone()
+                Some(Channel(self.msg.channel_login.clone()))
+            },
+            BotAction::R(r) => {
+                // let temp = r.module.clone();
+                // Some(temp)
+                Some(r.read().await.channel.clone())
+            }
+            // _ => None
+        }
+    }
+
+
+
     pub fn get_sender(&self) -> String {
         self.msg.sender.name.clone()
     }
diff --git a/src/core/botinstance.rs b/src/core/botinstance.rs
index 07b481d..2c06cea 100644
--- a/src/core/botinstance.rs
+++ b/src/core/botinstance.rs
@@ -40,7 +40,7 @@ pub struct Channel(pub String);
 use super::bot_actions::ExecBodyParams;
 use super::botmodules::StatusType;
 
-#[derive(Clone)]
+#[derive(Clone, Debug)]
 pub struct BotManagers {
     pub identity: Arc<RwLock<IdentityManager>>,
     pub chat: Chat,
@@ -70,6 +70,7 @@ impl<T: Clone> ArcBox<T> {
     }
 }
 
+#[derive(Debug)]
 pub struct BotInstance {
     pub prefix: char,
     pub bot_channel: Channel,
@@ -404,7 +405,8 @@ impl BotInstance {
                                 let params = ExecBodyParams {
                                     bot : Arc::clone(&bot),
                                     msg : (*msg).clone(),
-                                    parent_act : Arc::clone(&act_clone),
+                                    parent_act : None,
+                                    curr_act : Arc::clone(&act_clone),
                                 };
 
                                 // When sending a BotMsgTypeNotif, send_botmsg does Roles related validation as required
@@ -461,7 +463,8 @@ impl BotInstance {
                                     let params = ExecBodyParams {
                                         bot : Arc::clone(&bot),
                                         msg : (*msg).clone(),
-                                        parent_act : Arc::clone(&act_clone),
+                                        parent_act : None,
+                                        curr_act : Arc::clone(&act_clone),
 
                                     };
 
@@ -491,7 +494,8 @@ impl BotInstance {
                                     let params = ExecBodyParams {
                                         bot : Arc::clone(&bot),
                                         msg : (*msg).clone(),
-                                        parent_act : Arc::clone(&act_clone),
+                                        parent_act : None,
+                                        curr_act : Arc::clone(&act_clone),
 
                                     };
 
@@ -516,7 +520,8 @@ impl BotInstance {
                                     c.execute(ExecBodyParams { 
                                         bot : a, 
                                         msg : msg.clone() ,
-                                        parent_act : Arc::clone(&act_clone),
+                                        parent_act : None,
+                                        curr_act : Arc::clone(&act_clone),
                                     }).await;
 
                                     botlog::trace(
@@ -564,7 +569,8 @@ impl BotInstance {
                             l.execute(ExecBodyParams { 
                                 bot : a, 
                                 msg : msg.clone() , 
-                                parent_act : Arc::clone(&act_clone),
+                                parent_act : None,
+                                curr_act : Arc::clone(&act_clone),
                             } ).await;
                         }
 
diff --git a/src/core/botmodules.rs b/src/core/botmodules.rs
index c104fdd..99ba009 100644
--- a/src/core/botmodules.rs
+++ b/src/core/botmodules.rs
@@ -25,14 +25,26 @@ const OF_CMD_CHANNEL:Channel = Channel(String::new());
 
 use core::panic;
 
+use std::borrow::Borrow;
+use std::borrow::BorrowMut;
 use std::collections::HashMap;
+use std::fmt::{Debug, Formatter};
+use std::ops::DerefMut;
 use std::sync::Arc;
 
 use casual_logger::Log;
 
+use chrono::DateTime;
+// use chrono::Duration;
+use chrono::Local;
+use chrono::OutOfRangeError;
 use tokio::sync::RwLock;
 
 use async_trait::async_trait;
+use tokio::task::JoinHandle;
+
+use tokio::time::Instant;
+use tokio::time::{sleep, Duration};
 
 use crate::core::bot_actions::actions_util;
 use crate::core::bot_actions::ExecBodyParams;
@@ -44,6 +56,8 @@ use crate::core::bot_actions;
 
 use std::hash::{Hash, Hasher};
 
+use super::bot_actions::ActAR;
+use super::bot_actions::RoutineAR;
 use super::identity::ChatBadge;
 
 
@@ -69,7 +83,6 @@ pub async fn init(mgr: Arc<ModulesManager>) {
     // 2. Add the BotAction to ModulesManager
     botc1.add_core_to_modmgr(Arc::clone(&mgr)).await;
     
-    // async fn cmd_enable(bot: BotAR, msg: PrivmsgMessage) {
     async fn cmd_enable(params : ExecBodyParams) {
         /*
             There should be additional validation checks
@@ -253,7 +266,6 @@ pub async fn init(mgr: Arc<ModulesManager>) {
     // 2. Add the BotAction to ModulesManager
     botc1.add_core_to_modmgr(Arc::clone(&mgr)).await;
     
-    // async fn cmd_disable(bot: BotAR, msg: PrivmsgMessage) {
     async fn cmd_disable(params : ExecBodyParams) {
         /*
             There should be additional validation checks
@@ -459,10 +471,11 @@ pub enum StatusType {
     Disabled(StatusLvl),
 }
 
+#[derive(Debug)]
 pub enum BotAction {
     C(BotCommand),
     L(Listener),
-    R(Routine),
+    R(Arc<RwLock<Routine>>),
 }
 
 impl BotAction {
@@ -521,6 +534,12 @@ impl BotActionTrait for BotCommand {
     }
 }
 
+impl Debug for BotCommand {
+    fn fmt(&self, f: &mut Formatter<'_>) -> std::fmt::Result {
+        write!(f, "{:?} {:?} {:?} {:?} {:?}", self.module, self.command, self.alias, self.help, self.required_roles)
+    }
+}
+
 pub struct Listener {
     pub module: BotModule,
     pub name: String,
@@ -568,12 +587,913 @@ impl BotActionTrait for Listener {
     }
 }
 
+impl Debug for Listener {
+    fn fmt(&self, f: &mut Formatter<'_>) -> std::fmt::Result {
+        write!(f, "{:?} {:?} {:?}", self.module, self.name, self.help)
+    }
+}
+
+// #[derive(Debug, PartialEq, Eq, Hash, Clone)]
+#[derive(Debug, PartialEq, Eq, Hash)]
+pub enum RoutineAttr {
+    DelayedStart,
+    ScheduledStart(DateTime<Local>), // Scheduled Date (if any) after which, if not started, may trigger
+    LoopDuration(Duration), // How long to wait between iterations
+    LoopInfinitely,
+    RunOnce,
+    MaxTimeThreshold(DateTime<Local>), // DateTime after which, it will abort/cancel or stop
+    MaxIterations(i64),
+}
+/*
+    a Routine can be given different combinations of the above, but business logic may validate 
+    these at Routine construction
+
+    For example, a Routine could have the following characteristics
+    - DelayedStart (so it skips the first iteration)
+    - ScheduledStart(DateTime<Local>) - With a Start Date-Time for the first iteration to trigger
+    - LoopDuration(Duration) - How long to wait between iterations
+
+    The above without any other thresholds would loop infinitely with the above characteristics 
+
+    Another example,
+    - LoopDuration(Duration) - How long to wait between iterations
+    - MaxTimeThreshold(DateTime<Local>)
+    - MaxIterations(i64) 
+
+    The above has thresholds , so if either are reached, it would abort/cancel or stop . Since there is no 
+    ScheduledStart, the routine would have to be started manually elsewhere
+
+    Another example , 
+    - (no RoutineAttr)
+
+    The above would only run once, and only when the Start() is called
+
+*/
+
+// For some key statuses and in particular Stopping to Gracefully stop
 #[derive(Debug)]
-pub struct Routine {}
+pub enum RoutineSignal {
+    Stopping, // Gracefully Stopping
+    Stopped, // When cancelling or aborting, this also is represented by Stopped
+    Started, // After Routine Started
+    NotStarted,
+}
+
+pub struct Routine {
+    pub name : String ,
+    pub module : BotModule , // from() can determine this if passed parents_params
+    pub channel : Channel , // Requiring some channel context 
+    exec_body: bot_actions::actions_util::ExecBody,
+    pub parent_params : ExecBodyParams ,
+    pub join_handle : Option<Arc<RwLock<JoinHandle<RoutineAR>>>> , 
+    start_time : Option<DateTime<Local>> ,
+    pub complete_iterations : i64 , 
+    pub remaining_iterations : Option<i64> ,
+    routine_attr : Vec<RoutineAttr> ,
+    pub internal_signal : RoutineSignal ,
+    pub self_routine_ar : Option<RoutineAR> ,
+    pub self_act_ar : Option<ActAR> ,
+}
+
+// implement Debug manually witouth `exec_body` since you cant debug `ExecBody`.
+impl Debug for Routine {
+    fn fmt(&self, f: &mut Formatter<'_>) -> std::fmt::Result {
+        write!(f, "{:?}", self.name)?;
+        write!(f, "{:?}", self.module)?;
+        write!(f, "{:?}", self.channel)?;
+        write!(f, "{:?}", self.parent_params)?;
+        write!(f, "{:?}", self.join_handle)?;
+        write!(f, "{:?}", self.start_time)?;
+        write!(f, "{:?}", self.complete_iterations)?;
+        write!(f, "{:?}", self.remaining_iterations)?;
+        write!(f, "{:?}", self.routine_attr)?;
+        write!(f, "{:?}", self.internal_signal)?;
+        write!(f, "{:?}", self.self_routine_ar)?;
+        write!(f, "{:?}", self.self_act_ar)
+    }
+}
+
+impl Routine {
+
+
+    // // pub fn set 
+    // // pub async fn refresh_self_ref(self) {
+    // pub async fn refresh_routine_internal(routine_ar : RoutineAR) 
+    // {
+
+    //     /*
+    //     Execute after the Routine is constructed
+    //     - If not, a start() will also call this 
+
+    //     */
+
+    //     // 1. Update the self reference to itself
+
+    //     let mut mut_lock = routine_ar.write().await;
+    //     mut_lock.self_routine_ar = Some(routine_ar.clone());
+
+    //     // 2. Update the current self_act_ar
+    //     mut_lock.self_act_ar = Some(Arc::new(RwLock::new(BotAction::R(routine_ar.clone()))));
+
+
+
+        
+
+    // }
+
+
+    pub async fn validate_attr(routine_attr : &Vec<RoutineAttr>) 
+    -> Result<String,String> 
+    // [ ] => 03.27 - REVIEW FOR COMPLETION
+    {
+
+        /*
+        
+        GENERAL LOGIC : 
+        [x] 1. Define RoutineAttr in a broad level that are known to be implented or are work in progress
+        [x] 2. Built in Logic will check these vectors, and return if Not Implemented
+        [x] 3. If Implemented , then there are additional internal validation based on combination done later
+        
+         */
+
+
+        // [x] 1. Define RoutineAttr in a broad level that are known to be implented or are work in progress
+
+        // adjust the below for those that are work in progress or that are implemented 
+        // - This will allow other functions to validate that it is implemented
+
+        // // WORK IN PROGRESS VECTOR - Vec<$RoutineAttr>
+
+        // let wip_attr:Vec<RoutineAttr> = vec![
+        //     RoutineAttr::DelayedStart,
+        //     RoutineAttr::ScheduledStart(chrono::offset::Local::now()),
+        //     RoutineAttr::LoopDuration(Duration::from_secs(1)),
+        //     RoutineAttr::LoopInfinitely, // Note : There's no added implementation for this
+        //     RoutineAttr::RunOnce,
+        //     RoutineAttr::MaxTimeThreshold(chrono::offset::Local::now()),
+        //     RoutineAttr::MaxIterations(1),
+
+        // ];
+
+        // let implemented_attr:Vec<RoutineAttr> = vec![
+        // ];
+
+
+        // [x] 2. Built in Logic will check these vectors, and return if Not Implemented
+
+        // let mut unimplemented = routine_attr.iter()
+        //     .filter(|x| {
+        //         let inx = x;
+        //         wip_attr.iter().filter(|y| matches!(y,i if i == inx)).next().is_none() 
+        //         && implemented_attr.iter().filter(|y| matches!(y,i if i == inx)).next().is_none()
+        //     }
+        // );
+
+        let mut attribute_supported = false;
+
+        for given_routine in routine_attr {
+
+            // if !matches!(given_routine,RoutineAttr::DelayedStart)
+            // && !matches!(given_routine,RoutineAttr::ScheduledStart(_))
+            // && !matches!(given_routine,RoutineAttr::LoopDuration(_))
+            // && !matches!(given_routine,RoutineAttr::LoopInfinitely)
+            // && !matches!(given_routine,RoutineAttr::RunOnce)
+            // && !matches!(given_routine,RoutineAttr::MaxTimeThreshold(_))
+            // && !matches!(given_routine,RoutineAttr::MaxIterations(_))
+            if matches!(given_routine,RoutineAttr::DelayedStart)
+            || matches!(given_routine,RoutineAttr::ScheduledStart(_))
+            || matches!(given_routine,RoutineAttr::LoopDuration(_))
+            || matches!(given_routine,RoutineAttr::LoopInfinitely)
+            || matches!(given_routine,RoutineAttr::RunOnce)
+            || matches!(given_routine,RoutineAttr::MaxTimeThreshold(_))
+            || matches!(given_routine,RoutineAttr::MaxIterations(_))
+            
+            {
+
+                attribute_supported = true;
+
+            }
+
+        };
+
+
+        if !attribute_supported {
+            botlog::trace(
+                "[ERROR][Routine Feature NOT IMPLEMENTED]",
+                Some("Routine > Validate_attr()".to_string()),
+                None,
+            );
+    
+            Log::flush();
+    
+            botlog::trace(
+                format!(
+                    "[ERROR][Routine Feature NOT IMPLEMENTED] > Problem Routine - {:?}"
+                    ,routine_attr).as_str(),
+                Some("Routine > Validate_attr()".to_string()),
+                None,
+            );
+    
+            Log::flush();
+    
+            return Err("NOT IMPLEMENTED".to_string());
+        }
+
+
+
+
+
+
+        // if unimplemented.next().is_some() {
+
+        //     botlog::trace(
+        //         "[ERROR][Routine Feature NOT IMPLEMENTED]",
+        //         Some("Routine > Validate_attr()".to_string()),
+        //         None,
+        //     );
+    
+        //     Log::flush();
+    
+        //     return Err("NOT IMPLEMENTED".to_string());
+        // }
+
+
+
+
+
+        // [x] 3. If Implemented , then there are additional internal validation based on combination done later to ERR
+
+        // Below ensures a routine_attr containing LoopInfinitely does not contain conflicit attributes
+        if routine_attr.contains(&RoutineAttr::LoopInfinitely) && 
+            ( routine_attr.contains(&RoutineAttr::RunOnce) 
+                || routine_attr.iter().filter(|y| matches!(y,&&RoutineAttr::MaxIterations(_))).next().is_some()
+                || routine_attr.iter().filter(|y| matches!(y,&&RoutineAttr::MaxTimeThreshold(_))).next().is_some()
+            )    
+        {
+            return Err("Conflicting Routine Attributes".to_string())
+        }
+
+        // [x] if there is no RunOnce, there must be a LoopDuration
+        if !routine_attr.contains(&RoutineAttr::RunOnce)
+        && routine_attr.iter()
+            .filter(|x| matches!(x,&&RoutineAttr::LoopDuration(_)) )
+            .next().is_none()
+        {
+            return Err("LoopDuration is required if not RunOnce".to_string());
+        }
+
+        
+        // [x] Err if DelayedStart but no LoopDuration
+        if routine_attr.contains(&RoutineAttr::DelayedStart) && 
+            routine_attr.iter()
+            .filter(|x| matches!(x,&&RoutineAttr::LoopDuration(_)) )
+            .next().is_none()
+        {
+            return Err("DelayedStart must include a LoopDuration".to_string())
+        }
+
+
+
+
+        // [x] 4. If all other failure checks above works, ensure one more time that the atstribute is implemented
+        // - If not, routine NOT IMPLEMENTED error
+
+        // if routine_attr.iter()
+        //     .filter(|x| {
+        //         let inx = x;
+        //         wip_attr.iter().filter(|y| matches!(y,i if i == inx)).next().is_none() 
+        //         || implemented_attr.iter().filter(|y| matches!(y,i if i == inx)).next().is_none()
+        //         })
+        //     .next()
+        //     .is_none() 
+        // {
+                            
+        botlog::trace(
+            "[OK][Implemented & Validated]",
+            Some("Routine > Validate_attr()".to_string()),
+            None,
+        );
+
+        Log::flush();
+
+        Ok("Implemented & Validated".to_string())
+
+
+
+    }
+
+    pub async fn validate_self_attr(self) 
+    -> Result<String,String> 
+    // [x] => 03.27 - COMPLETED
+    {
+        Routine::validate_attr(&self.routine_attr).await
+    }
+
+    // Constructor
+    pub async fn from(
+        name : String ,
+        module : BotModule ,
+        channel : Channel,
+        routine_attr : Vec<RoutineAttr> ,
+        exec_body : bot_actions::actions_util::ExecBody ,
+        parent_params : ExecBodyParams
+    ) -> Result<
+            Arc<RwLock<Routine>>,
+            String
+        > 
+    // [x] => 03.27 - COMPLETED
+    {
+
+        Routine::validate_attr(&routine_attr).await?;
+
+        let routine_ar = Arc::new(RwLock::new(Routine {
+            name ,
+            module ,
+            channel ,
+            exec_body ,
+            parent_params ,
+            join_handle : None ,
+            start_time : None ,
+            complete_iterations : 0 ,
+            remaining_iterations : None ,
+            routine_attr : routine_attr ,
+            internal_signal : RoutineSignal::NotStarted ,
+            self_routine_ar : None ,
+            self_act_ar : None ,
+        }));
+        
+        let mut mut_lock = routine_ar.write().await;
+        mut_lock.self_routine_ar = Some(routine_ar.clone());
+
+        // 2. Update the current self_act_ar
+        mut_lock.self_act_ar = Some(Arc::new(RwLock::new(BotAction::R(routine_ar.clone()))));
+
+        Ok(routine_ar.clone())
+        
+        // return Ok(Arc::new(RwLock::new(Routine {
+        //     name ,
+        //     module ,
+        //     channel ,
+        //     exec_body ,
+        //     parent_params ,
+        //     join_handle : None ,
+        //     start_time : None ,
+        //     complete_iterations : 0 ,
+        //     remaining_iterations : None ,
+        //     routine_attr : routine_attr ,
+        //     internal_signal : RoutineSignal::NotStarted ,
+        //     self_routine_ar : None ,
+        //     self_act_ar : None ,
+        // }))) ;
+
+
+    }
+
+    pub async fn start(
+        trg_routine_ar : Arc<RwLock<Routine>>
+    // ) -> Result<String,String>
+    ) -> Result<Arc<RwLock<Routine>>,String> 
+    // [ ] => 03.27 - REVIEW FOR COMPLETION
+    {
+
+
+        // // [x] Prep by updating it's own self reference
+        // Routine::refresh_routine_internal(trg_routine_ar.clone()).await;
+
+        // [x] Asyncio Spawn likely around here 
+        // [x] & Assigns self.join_handle
+
+
+        /*
+            UMBRELLA ROUTINE LOGIC 
+            1. Create a loop scenario based on routine_attr such as RunOnce
+            2. Run the loop depending on how the Routine is setup
+
+
+            START LOGIC : 
+            1. Ideally validate the routineattr that they're not a problem scenario (However, this should have been validated At Setup)
+            a. Extra helper validation function though would help in case the attributes were changes between setup
+            2. Use these attributes only in Critical areas of the loop logic to determine changes in Loop logic
+
+         */
+
+
+         // Use the following to stop the function from going any further if not implemented
+
+         Routine::validate_attr(&trg_routine_ar.read().await.routine_attr).await?;
+        //  if !trg_routine_ar.read().await.routine_attr.contains(&RoutineAttr::RunOnce) {
+
+            
+        //     botlog::trace(
+        //         format!(
+        //             "[ERROR][Routine Feature NOT IMPLEMENTED] {} in {}",
+        //                 trg_routine_ar.read().await.name,
+        //                 trg_routine_ar.read().await.channel.0 
+        //             )
+        //         .as_str(),
+        //         Some(format!(
+        //             "Routine > start() > (In Tokio Spawn) > {:?}",
+        //             trg_routine_ar.read().await.module
+        //         )),
+        //         Some(&trg_routine_ar.read().await.parent_params.msg),
+        //     );
+
+        //     Log::flush();
+
+        //     return Err("NOT IMPLEMENTED".to_string())
+
+        //  }
+        
+
+        let trg_routine_arout = Arc::clone(&trg_routine_ar);
+    
+
+        botlog::trace(
+                "innerhelper() started",
+                Some(format!(
+                "Routine > start() > (In Tokio Spawn)",
+            )),
+            Some(&trg_routine_ar.read().await.parent_params.msg),
+        );
+
+        Log::flush();
+
+        // Spawn the task
+        let join_handle = tokio::spawn(async move {
+
+            botlog::trace(
+                ">> Within Spawn",
+                Some(format!(
+                "Routine > start() > (In Tokio Spawn)",
+            )),
+            Some(&trg_routine_ar.read().await.parent_params.msg),
+            );
+
+            Log::flush();
+
+            // [x] If Scheduled Start or Delayed Start, Handle that first
+
+
+            fn duration_to_datetime(future_dt: DateTime<Local>) -> Result<Duration,OutOfRangeError> 
+            {
+                (future_dt - chrono::offset::Local::now()).to_std()
+            }
+            
+
+
+            let delayduration = {
+
+
+                let lock = trg_routine_ar.read().await;
+              
+                let mut related_attrs = lock
+                    .routine_attr.iter()
+                    .filter(|x| matches!(x,&&RoutineAttr::DelayedStart) || matches!(x,&&RoutineAttr::ScheduledStart(_)) );  
+
+                // match related_attrs.next() {
+
+                // }
+
+                async fn duration_from_attr(attr: &RoutineAttr,trg_routine_ar : RoutineAR) -> Option<Duration> {
+                // let duration_from_attr = async {
+                    let lock = trg_routine_ar.read().await;
+
+                    match attr {
+                        RoutineAttr::ScheduledStart(dt) => { 
+                            if let Ok(dur) = duration_to_datetime(*dt) {
+                                Some(dur)
+                            } else { None }
+                        },
+                        RoutineAttr::DelayedStart => {
+                            let mut loopdur_attr_iter = lock
+                            .routine_attr.iter()
+                            .filter(|x| matches!(x,&&RoutineAttr::LoopDuration(_)) ); 
+
+                            if let Some(loopdur_attr) = loopdur_attr_iter.next() {
+                                if let RoutineAttr::LoopDuration(dur) = loopdur_attr {
+                                    Some(*dur)
+                                } else { None }
+                            } else { None }
+                            // None
+                        },
+                        _ => { None } // Handle no other combination   
+                    }
+                }
+
+                // The following is done twice just in case ScheduledStart and DelayedStart are defined
+                let delayduration01 = if let Some(attr) = related_attrs.next() {
+                    duration_from_attr(attr, trg_routine_ar.clone()).await
+                } else { None };
+
+                let delayduration02 = if let Some(attr) = related_attrs.next() {
+                    duration_from_attr(attr, trg_routine_ar.clone()).await
+                } else { None };
+
+                // if there is a 2nd related duration, pick the minimum, otherwise, pick the results of delayduration01
+                if delayduration02.is_some() {
+                    Some(Duration::min(delayduration01.unwrap(),delayduration02.unwrap()))
+                } else { delayduration01 }
+                
+            };
+
+
+            botlog::trace(
+                format!(
+                    "[TRACE][Routine Processing] {} in {} > Delay Duration - {:?} ",
+                    trg_routine_ar.read().await.name,
+                    trg_routine_ar.read().await.channel.0 ,
+                    delayduration ,
+                    )
+                .as_str(),
+                Some(format!(
+                    "Routine > start() > (In Tokio Spawn) > {:?}",
+                    trg_routine_ar.read().await.module
+                )),
+                Some(&trg_routine_ar.read().await.parent_params.msg),
+            );
+
+            if let Some(dur) = delayduration {
+                sleep(dur).await;
+            }
+
+
+            { // [x] Loop Initialization - Prior to Loop that calls Custom Routine Execution Body
+                let mut a = trg_routine_ar.write().await;
+                a.start_time =  Some(chrono::offset::Local::now());
+
+                if let Some(&RoutineAttr::MaxIterations(iternum)) =
+                    a.routine_attr.iter()
+                        .filter(|x| matches!(x,RoutineAttr::MaxIterations(_)))
+                        .next() 
+                {
+                    a.remaining_iterations = Some(iternum);
+                }
+            }
+
+            loop { // [x] Routine loop
+                {
+                    let mut trg_routine = trg_routine_ar.write().await;
+
+                    trg_routine.parent_params.parent_act = Some(trg_routine.parent_params.curr_act.clone());
+                    trg_routine.parent_params.curr_act = trg_routine.self_act_ar.to_owned().unwrap();
+                }
+
+                // [x] execution body
+                trg_routine_ar.read().await.loopbody().await;
+
+
+                { // [x] End of Loop iteration
+                    let mut a = trg_routine_ar.write().await;
+
+                    // [x] Check if Gracefully Stopping Signal was sent
+                    if matches!(a.internal_signal,RoutineSignal::Stopping) {
+                        a.internal_signal = RoutineSignal::Stopped;
+                        break ;
+                    }
+
+                    // [x] Check and adjust iterations
+                    a.complete_iterations += 1;
+                    if let Some(i) = a.remaining_iterations {
+                        if i > 0 { a.remaining_iterations = Some(i-1) ; } 
+                        else { break ; } // if remaining iterations is 0, exit
+                    } 
+
+                }
+
+                // [x] End of Loop Validation
+                // These generally may include routine_attr related checks to , for example, break out of the loop
+                
+                if trg_routine_ar.read().await.routine_attr.contains(&RoutineAttr::RunOnce) {
+                    if trg_routine_ar.read().await.complete_iterations > 0 { break; }
+                }
+
+                // return if max time has passed
+                if let Some(&RoutineAttr::MaxTimeThreshold(dt)) = trg_routine_ar.read().await.routine_attr.iter()
+                .filter(|x| matches!(x,&&RoutineAttr::MaxTimeThreshold(_)) )
+                .next() {
+                    if chrono::offset::Local::now() > dt { break; }
+                }
+
+                // [x] Checks for Loop duration to sleep
+                if let Some(&RoutineAttr::LoopDuration(dur)) = trg_routine_ar.read().await.routine_attr.iter()
+                    .filter(|x| matches!(x,&&RoutineAttr::LoopDuration(_)) )
+                    .next() 
+                {
+                    sleep(dur).await;
+                };
+
+
+            }
+
+
+            botlog::trace(
+                format!(
+                    "[TRACE][Routine Completed] {} in {}",
+                    trg_routine_ar.read().await.name,
+                    trg_routine_ar.read().await.channel.0 
+                    )
+                .as_str(),
+                Some(format!(
+                    "Routine > start() > (In Tokio Spawn) > {:?}",
+                    trg_routine_ar.read().await.module
+                )),
+                Some(&trg_routine_ar.read().await.parent_params.msg),
+            );
+
+            botlog::trace(
+                format!(
+                    "[TRACE][Routine Completed][Routine Header Test] {} in {} > Completed Iterations : {}",
+                    trg_routine_ar.read().await.name,
+                    trg_routine_ar.read().await.channel.0 ,
+                    trg_routine_ar.read().await.complete_iterations,
+                    )
+                .as_str(),
+                Some(format!(
+                    "Routine > start() > (In Tokio Spawn) > {:?}",
+                    trg_routine_ar.read().await.module
+                )),
+                Some(&trg_routine_ar.read().await.parent_params.msg),
+            );
+
+            Log::flush();
+            trg_routine_ar
+        });
+
+
+        {   // Recommendation to ensure a clean update is to use one write() lock that was awaited
+            // - We can isolate the write lock by ensuring it's in it's own block
+
+            let mut lock = trg_routine_arout.write().await;
+            lock.join_handle = Some(Arc::new(RwLock::new(join_handle)));
+            lock.internal_signal = RoutineSignal::Started;
+
+        }
+        trg_routine_arout.write().await.internal_signal = RoutineSignal::Started;
+        
+        return Ok(trg_routine_arout);
+            
+    }
+
+    async fn loopbody(&self)
+    // [x] => 03.27 - COMPLETED 
+    {
+        botlog::trace(
+            "loopbody() started",
+            Some("Routine > start() > (During Tokio Spawn) > Execution body".to_string()),
+            None,
+        );
+        Log::flush();
+
+        let self_ar = Arc::new(RwLock::new(self));
+
+        // `self_ar` is the routine you want to read in the execbody i think, but its used to call that execbody.
+        // So execbody waits for itself to finish.
+        (self_ar.read().await.exec_body)(
+            self_ar.read().await.parent_params.clone()
+        ).await;
+    }
+
+    pub async fn stop(&mut self) -> Result<String,String> 
+    // [ ] => 03.27 - REVIEW FOR COMPLETION
+    {
+
+        
+        let self_rw = Arc::new(RwLock::new(self));
+
+        {
+            let mut self_lock = self_rw.write().await;
+            self_lock.internal_signal = RoutineSignal::Stopping;
+        }
+
+
+        let self_lock = self_rw.read().await;
+        
+        botlog::trace(
+            format!(
+                "[ROUTINE][Sent Gracefully Stop Signal] {} in {}",
+                    self_lock.name,self_lock.channel.0 
+                )
+            .as_str(),
+            Some(format!(
+                "Routine > stop() >  {:?}",
+                self_lock.module
+            )),
+            Some(&self_lock.parent_params.msg),
+        );
+
+        Log::flush();
+
+        Ok("Sent Gracefully Stop Signal".to_string())
+
+        // botlog::trace(
+        //     format!(
+        //         "[ERROR][Routine NOT IMPLEMENTED] {} in {}",
+        //             self_lock.name,self_lock.channel.0 
+        //         )
+        //     .as_str(),
+        //     Some(format!(
+        //         "Routine > start() > (In Tokio Spawn) > {:?}",
+        //         self_lock.module
+        //     )),
+        //     Some(&self_lock.parent_params.msg),
+        // );
+
+        // Log::flush();
+
+        // Err("NOT IMPLEMENTED".to_string())
+    }
+
+    pub async fn cancel(&mut self) -> Result<String,String> 
+    // [ ] => 03.27 - REVIEW FOR COMPLETION
+    {
+
+        // [ ] Likely calls abort()
+        // Related : 
+        // https://docs.rs/tokio/latest/tokio/task/struct.JoinHandle.html#method.abort
+        
+        
+        let self_rw = Arc::new(RwLock::new(self));
+        let self_lock = self_rw.read().await;
+
+
+        match &self_lock.join_handle {
+            None => return Err("No Join Handle on the Routine to Cancel".to_string()),
+            Some(a) => {
+                a.read().await.abort();
+                {
+                    let mut lock_mut = self_rw.write().await;
+                    lock_mut.internal_signal = RoutineSignal::Stopped;
+
+                }
+            }
+        }
+
+
+        botlog::trace(
+            format!(
+                "[ROUTINE][Cancelled Routine] {} in {}",
+                self_lock.name,self_lock.channel.0 
+                )
+            .as_str(),
+            Some(format!(
+                "Routine > cancel() > {:?}",
+                self_lock.module
+            )),
+            Some(&self_lock.parent_params.msg),
+        );
+
+        Log::flush();
+        Ok("Cancelled Successfully".to_string())
+        
+
+        // botlog::trace(
+        //     format!(
+        //         "[ERROR][Routine NOT IMPLEMENTED] {} in {}",
+        //         self_lock.name,self_lock.channel.0 
+        //         )
+        //     .as_str(),
+        //     Some(format!(
+        //         "Routine > start() > (In Tokio Spawn) > {:?}",
+        //         self_lock.module
+        //     )),
+        //     Some(&self_lock.parent_params.msg),
+        // );
+
+        // Log::flush();
+        // Err("NOT IMPLEMENTED".to_string())
+    }
+
+    pub async fn restart(
+        // &mut self,
+        self,
+        force : bool
+    ) -> Result<String,String> 
+    // [ ] => 03.27 - REVIEW FOR COMPLETION
+    {
+        // force flag aborts the routine immediately (like cancel())
+
+        
+        let self_rw = Arc::new(RwLock::new(self));
+
+        if force
+        {
+            let mut self_lock = self_rw.write().await;
+            self_lock.cancel().await?;
+        } else {
+            let mut self_lock = self_rw.write().await;
+            self_lock.stop().await?;
+        }
+
+        Routine::start(self_rw.clone()).await?;
+        
+        let self_lock = self_rw.read().await;
+
+        botlog::trace(
+            format!(
+                "[ROUTINE][Restarted Routine] {} in {}",
+                self_lock.name,self_lock.channel.0 
+                )
+            .as_str(),
+            Some(format!(
+                "Routine > restart() > {:?}",
+                self_lock.module
+            )),
+            Some(&self_lock.parent_params.msg),
+        );
+
+        Log::flush();
+        Ok("Restarted successfully".to_string())
+    }
+
+    pub async fn change_channel(
+        &mut self,
+        channel : Channel
+    ) -> Result<String,String> 
+    // [ ] => 03.28 - REVIEW FOR COMPLETION
+    {
+        // [x] Think Ideally it should try to 
+        //  change the target channel of the
+        //  internal process too if possible?
+
+        self.channel = channel;
+
+
+        let self_rw = Arc::new(RwLock::new(self));
+
+        let self_lock = self_rw.read().await;
+
+        botlog::trace(
+            format!(
+                "[ROUTINE][Change Channel] {} in {}",
+                self_lock.name,self_lock.channel.0 
+                )
+            .as_str(),
+            Some(format!(
+                "Routine > restart() > {:?}",
+                self_lock.module
+            )),
+            Some(&self_lock.parent_params.msg),
+        );
+
+        Log::flush();
+
+        // Err("NOT IMPLEMENTED".to_string())
+        Ok("Changed Successfully".to_string())
+    }
+
+
+    pub async fn set_routine_attributes(
+        &mut self,
+        routine_attr : Vec<RoutineAttr>
+    ) -> Result<String,String> 
+    // [ ] => 03.27 - WIP - NOT IMPLEMENTED
+    {
+        // This is way to custom set attributes first
+        // They will Be Validated before being applied
+        // IDEALLY the routine also be restarted afterwards externally
+
+        Routine::validate_attr(&routine_attr).await?;
+
+
+        let self_rw = Arc::new(RwLock::new(self));
+        {
+            let mut self_lock = self_rw.write().await;
+            self_lock.routine_attr = routine_attr;
+        }
+
+        // let self_rw = Arc::new(RwLock::new(self));
+
+        let self_lock = self_rw.read().await;
+
+        botlog::trace(
+            format!(
+                "[ROUTINE][Set Routine Attributes] {} in {}",
+                self_lock.name,self_lock.channel.0 
+                )
+            .as_str(),
+            Some(format!(
+                "Routine > restart() > {:?}",
+                self_lock.module
+            )),
+            Some(&self_lock.parent_params.msg),
+        );
+
+        Log::flush();
+
+
+        Ok("Changed Successfully".to_string())
+    }
+
+
+}
+
+
+
 
 type StatusdbEntry = (ModGroup, Vec<StatusType>);
 type ModuleActions = Vec<Arc<RwLock<BotAction>>>;
 
+#[derive(Debug)]
 pub struct ModulesManager {
     statusdb: Arc<RwLock<HashMap<BotModule, StatusdbEntry>>>,
     pub botactions: Arc<RwLock<HashMap<BotModule, ModuleActions>>>,
diff --git a/src/core/chat.rs b/src/core/chat.rs
index bb938cc..275ef3b 100644
--- a/src/core/chat.rs
+++ b/src/core/chat.rs
@@ -27,7 +27,7 @@ use super::identity;
 
 use async_recursion::async_recursion;
 
-#[derive(Clone)]
+#[derive(Clone, Debug)]
 pub struct Chat {
     pub ratelimiters: Arc<Mutex<HashMap<Channel, RateLimiter>>>, // used to limit messages sent per channel
     pub client: TwitchIRCClient<TCPTransport<TLS>, StaticLoginCredentials>,
@@ -101,14 +101,15 @@ impl Chat {
         Some(&params.msg),
         );
 
-        let parent_module = params.get_parent_module().await;
+        let parent_module = params.get_module().await;
 
         let params_clone = params.clone();
         let botclone = Arc::clone(&params_clone.bot);
         let botlock = botclone.read().await;
         let modmgr = Arc::clone(&botlock.botmodules);
         let modstatus = (*modmgr).modstatus(
-            parent_module.clone().expect("ERROR - Expected a module"), 
+            // parent_module.clone().expect("ERROR - Expected a module"), 
+            parent_module.clone(),
             Channel(channel_login.clone())
             ).await;
 
@@ -180,7 +181,8 @@ impl Chat {
 
                     self.send_botmsg(BotMsgType::Notif(
                         format!("uuh {:?} is disabled on {} : {:?}",
-                                parent_module.clone().unwrap(),
+                                // parent_module.clone().unwrap(),
+                                parent_module.clone(),
                                 channel_login.clone(),
                                 lvl
                             ),                     
diff --git a/src/core/identity.rs b/src/core/identity.rs
index dc2da72..7a9e579 100644
--- a/src/core/identity.rs
+++ b/src/core/identity.rs
@@ -553,7 +553,16 @@ async fn getroles(params : ExecBodyParams) {
     let arg1 = argv.next();
 
     let targetuser = match arg1 {
-        None => return, // exit if no arguments
+        None => {
+
+            botlog::debug(
+                "Exittingcmd getroles - Invalid arguments ",
+                Some("identity.rs > init > getroles()".to_string()),
+                Some(&params.msg),
+            );
+            return
+            
+        }, // exit if no arguments
         Some(arg) => arg,
     };
 
@@ -689,7 +698,7 @@ pub enum Permissible {
 
 type UserRolesDB = HashMap<String, Arc<RwLock<Vec<UserRole>>>>;
 
-#[derive(Clone)]
+#[derive(Clone, Debug)]
 pub struct IdentityManager {
     special_roles_users: Arc<RwLock<UserRolesDB>>,
 }
diff --git a/src/custom/experimental.rs b/src/custom/experimental.rs
index 409abd1..7da2ecb 100644
--- a/src/custom/experimental.rs
+++ b/src/custom/experimental.rs
@@ -12,6 +12,7 @@ pub use crate::core::botmodules::ModulesManager;
 
 mod experiment001;
 mod experiment002;
+mod experiment003;
 
 // [ ] init() function that accepts bot instance - this is passed to init() on submodules
 
@@ -21,4 +22,5 @@ pub async fn init(mgr: Arc<ModulesManager>) {
 
     experiment001::init(Arc::clone(&mgr)).await;
     experiment002::init(Arc::clone(&mgr)).await;
+    experiment003::init(Arc::clone(&mgr)).await;
 }
diff --git a/src/custom/experimental/experiment003.rs b/src/custom/experimental/experiment003.rs
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..41c1d65
--- /dev/null
+++ b/src/custom/experimental/experiment003.rs
@@ -0,0 +1,666 @@
+/*
+    Custom Modules -
+
+    Usage :
+    [ ] within the file's init(), define BotActions & Load them into the ModulesManager
+    [ ] Define Execution Bodies for these BotActions
+    [ ] Afterwards, add  the following to parent modules.rs file
+        - mod <modulename>;
+        - within init(), <modulename>::init(mgr).await
+
+*/
+
+
+const OF_CMD_CHANNEL:Channel = Channel(String::new());
+
+
+use casual_logger::Log;
+use rand::Rng;
+use rand::thread_rng;
+use rand::rngs::StdRng;
+use rand::seq::SliceRandom;
+use tokio::sync::RwLock;
+use std::borrow::Borrow;
+use std::borrow::BorrowMut;
+use std::sync::Arc;
+
+use crate::core::bot_actions::ExecBodyParams;
+use crate::core::botinstance::Channel;
+use crate::core::botlog;
+
+use crate::core::bot_actions::actions_util;
+use crate::core::botmodules::{BotAction, BotActionTrait, BotCommand, BotModule, Listener, ModulesManager, Routine, RoutineAttr};
+
+use crate::core::identity::UserRole::*;
+
+use tokio::time::{sleep, Duration};
+
+pub async fn init(mgr: Arc<ModulesManager>) {
+
+    // 1. Define the BotAction
+    let botc1 = BotCommand {
+        module: BotModule(String::from("experiments003")),
+        command: String::from("test3"), // command call name
+        alias: vec![], // String of alternative names
+        exec_body: actions_util::asyncbox(test3_body),
+        help: String::from("Test Command tester"),
+        required_roles: vec![
+            BotAdmin,
+            Mod(OF_CMD_CHANNEL),
+        ], 
+    };
+
+    // 2. Add the BotAction to ModulesManager
+    botc1.add_to_modmgr(Arc::clone(&mgr)).await;
+
+
+    // 1. Define the BotAction
+    let botc1 = BotCommand {
+        module: BotModule(String::from("experiments003")),
+        command: String::from("countdown"), // command call name
+        alias: vec![], // String of alternative names
+        exec_body: actions_util::asyncbox(countdown_chnl_v1),
+        help: String::from("Test Command tester"),
+        required_roles: vec![
+            BotAdmin,
+            Mod(OF_CMD_CHANNEL),
+        ], 
+    };
+
+    // 2. Add the BotAction to ModulesManager
+    botc1.add_to_modmgr(Arc::clone(&mgr)).await;
+
+
+
+}
+
+
+async fn countdown_chnl_v1(params : ExecBodyParams) {
+
+    botlog::debug(
+        "[CHILDFN] countdown_chnl() triggered!",
+        Some("Experiments003 > countdown_chnl()".to_string()),
+        Some(&params.msg),
+    );
+
+
+    /*
+     create a fun countdown BotCommand that allows an Elevated Chatter to
+        -a add channels to target a routine message
+        -start to start the routine with an input String, that sends a number 
+            of messages to the targeted channels with a countdown, until it 
+            reaches 0 when it sends a cute or funny message
+
+        NOTE : At the moment, I don't have customizable persistence, so I would just use
+        counters from the Routine itself
+     */
+
+    /*
+        Because of some bot core features are not available, v1.0 of this could be : 
+        [x] 1. Create a Routine & start a routine
+        [x] 2. Have the routine go through each joined channel randomly and countdown
+        [x] 3. At the end, say "0, I love you uwu~" in the last chosen channel
+     */
+
+    /*
+        Usage  => 03.28 - skipping arguments as functinoality isn't enhanced
+
+        -a <channel> => 03.28 - Not sure if this is possible at the moment?
+
+        -start
+
+        -stop  => 03.28 - Not sure if this is possible at the moment?
+    
+     */
+
+    /*
+        [ ] Functional Use Case
+
+        1. -a <channel> adds targetted channels
+
+     */
+
+        // [-] Unwraps arguments from message
+
+        // let (arg1, arg2) = {
+
+        //     let mut argv = params.msg.message_text.split(' ');
+
+        //     argv.next(); // Skip the command name
+
+        //     let arg1 = argv.next();
+
+        //     let arg2 = argv.next();
+
+        //     (arg1, arg2)
+        // };
+
+
+
+    // [ ] 1. Create a Routine & start a routine
+
+    // let parentmodule = params.get_parent_module().await;
+    let module = params.get_module().await;
+    let channel = params.get_channel().await;
+    let routine_attr = vec![
+        // RoutineAttr::RunOnce
+        RoutineAttr::MaxIterations(5),
+        RoutineAttr::LoopDuration(Duration::from_secs(1))
+    ];
+    // let exec_body = actions_util::asyncbox(rtestbody);
+    let exec_body = actions_util::asyncbox(innertester); // <-- 03.27 - when below is uncommented, this is throwing an issue
+
+    async fn innertester(params : ExecBodyParams) {
+
+        {
+            let curract_guard = params.curr_act.read().await;
+            
+
+            // let logmsg_botact = match *params.curr_act.read().await {
+                
+            let logmsg_botact = match *curract_guard {
+                BotAction::C(_) => "command",
+                BotAction::R(_) => "routine",
+                BotAction::L(_) => "listener",
+            } ;
+
+
+            botlog::trace(
+                format!("Params > Curr_act type : {:?}", logmsg_botact).as_str(),
+                Some("Experiments003  > countdown_chnl()".to_string()),
+                Some(&params.msg),
+            );
+            Log::flush();
+        }
+        
+        {
+            let bot = Arc::clone(&params.bot);
+            let botlock = bot.read().await;
+        
+            let curract_guard = params.curr_act.write().await;
+
+            // let routine_lock = arr.write().await;
+
+            if let BotAction::R(arr) = &*curract_guard {
+        // if let BotAction::R(arr) = &*params.curr_act.read().await {
+
+                botlog::trace(
+                    "Before loading remaining iterations",
+                    Some("Experiments003  > countdown_chnl()".to_string()),
+                    None,
+                );
+                Log::flush();
+
+
+            // let iterleft = arr.read().await.remaining_iterations.unwrap_or(0);
+
+            // // let iterleft = if arr.read().await.remaining_iterations.is_none() { 0i64 } 
+            // //     else { arr.read().await.remaining_iterations.unwrap() };
+            // let iterleft = match arr.read().await.remaining_iterations {
+            //     None => 0,
+            //     Some(a) => a,
+            // };
+
+            // let routine_lock = arr.read().await;
+            // if let Some(a) = routine_lock.remaining_iterations.clone() {
+            //     println!("Remaining iterations > {}",a)
+            // }
+
+            {
+                let routine_lock = arr.write().await;
+                let a = routine_lock.remaining_iterations;
+                println!("remaining iterations : {:?}", a);
+            }
+
+            botlog::trace(
+                "after loading remaining iterations",
+                Some("Experiments003  > countdown_chnl()".to_string()),
+                None,
+            );
+            Log::flush();
+
+            // [ ] get joined channels
+            let joinedchannels = botlock.bot_channels.clone();
+
+
+            fn pick_a_channel(chnlvec : Vec<Channel>) -> Channel {
+
+                
+                botlog::trace(
+                    "In Pick_a_Channel()",
+                    Some("Experiments003  > countdown_chnl()".to_string()),
+                    None,
+                );
+                Log::flush();
+                
+                // More Information : https://docs.rs/rand/0.7.2/rand/seq/trait.SliceRandom.html#tymethod.choose
+
+                let mut rng = thread_rng();
+                
+                // let joinedchannels = botlock.bot_channels.clone();
+                (*chnlvec.choose(&mut rng).unwrap()).clone()
+            }
+
+    
+            let chosen_channel = pick_a_channel(joinedchannels);
+
+            botlog::trace(
+                format!("Picked a channel: {:?}", chosen_channel).as_str(),
+                Some("Experiments003  > countdown_chnl()".to_string()),
+                Some(&params.msg),
+            );
+            Log::flush();
+
+            // let outmsg = if iterleft == 1 {
+            //     format!("{} I love you uwu~",iterleft)
+            // } else { format!("{}",iterleft) };
+
+            // botlock.botmgrs.chat
+            // .say(
+            //     // joinedchannels.choose(&mut rng).unwrap().0.clone(), 
+            //     chosen_channel.0.clone(), 
+            //     outmsg, 
+            //     params.clone()
+         
+         
+            // ).await;
+
+        }
+        }
+
+
+    }
+
+
+
+    // [ ] setup the routine
+    if let Ok(newr) = Routine::from(
+        "Routine Test".to_string(), 
+        module, 
+        channel.unwrap(), 
+        routine_attr,
+        exec_body, 
+        params.clone()
+    ).await {
+        let newr_ar = newr.clone();
+        // [ ] start the routine
+        if let Ok(_) = Routine::start(newr_ar.clone()).await {
+
+
+            botlog::debug(
+                "Successfully started",
+                Some("experiment003 > countdown_chnl()".to_string()),
+                Some(&params.msg),
+            );
+
+            
+            Log::flush();
+
+            let bot = Arc::clone(&params.bot);
+
+            let botlock = bot.read().await;
+
+            // uses chat.say_in_reply_to() for the bot controls for messages
+            botlock
+            .botmgrs
+            .chat
+            .say_in_reply_to(
+                &params.msg, 
+                "Started Routine!".to_string(),
+                params.clone()
+            ).await;
+
+            // let jhandle = newr.clone().read().await.join_handle.clone().unwrap();
+            // let a = jhandle.write().await;
+            // a.
+            // sleep(Duration::from_secs(300)).await;
+    
+        }
+
+
+    }
+
+
+    // botlock
+    // .botmgrs
+    // .chat
+    // .say_in_reply_to(
+    //     &params.msg, 
+    //     format!("{:?}",),
+    //     params.clone()
+    // ).await;
+
+
+
+}
+
+
+
+
+async fn test3_body(params : ExecBodyParams) {
+    // println!("testy triggered!"); // NOTE : This test function intends to print (e.g., to stdout) at fn call
+    botlog::debug(
+        "testy triggered!",
+        Some("Experiments003 > test3 command body".to_string()),
+        Some(&params.msg),
+    );
+
+    /*
+        Test Routine Start() by :
+        1. In this single exec body , create a Routine
+        2. Create a Routine Execution Body
+        3. Pass the Execution Body & Routine Attributes to create the Routine
+        4. Start the Routine
+        5. For RunOnce , we should see it only trigger once, and then complete in the logs
+
+     */
+
+    // [x] Get the module from params
+
+    // let parentmodule = params.get_parent_module().await;
+    let module = params.get_module().await;
+    let channel = params.get_channel().await;
+    let routine_attr = vec![
+        RoutineAttr::RunOnce
+    ];
+    // let exec_body = actions_util::asyncbox(rtestbody);
+    let exec_body = actions_util::asyncbox(rtestbody); // <-- 03.27 - when below is uncommented, this is throwing an issue
+
+
+    // let parent_params = params.clone();
+    // let params_clone = params.clone();
+
+
+    async fn rtestbody(params : ExecBodyParams) {
+
+
+        let guard = params.curr_act.read().await;
+        {     
+            let logmsg_botact = match *guard {
+                BotAction::C(_) => "command",
+                BotAction::R(_) => "routine",
+                BotAction::L(_) => "listener",
+            } ;
+
+            botlog::trace(
+                format!("Params > Curr_act type : {:?}", logmsg_botact).as_str(),
+                Some("Experiments003 > test3 command body".to_string()),
+                Some(&params.msg),
+            );
+            Log::flush();
+        }
+
+
+        {     
+            let logmsg_botact = match *guard {
+                BotAction::C(_) => "command 2",
+                BotAction::R(_) => "routine 2",
+                BotAction::L(_) => "listener 2",
+            } ;
+
+            botlog::trace(
+                format!("Params > Curr_act type : {:?}", logmsg_botact).as_str(),
+                Some("Experiments003 > test3 command body".to_string()),
+                Some(&params.msg),
+            );
+            Log::flush();
+        }
+
+
+        {
+            println!("Critical code area start");  // <= 03.29 - This is printed
+            if let BotAction::R(c) = &*guard {
+                println!("{:?}",c.read().await.channel);
+            }
+            println!("Critical code area end"); // <= 03.29 - ISSUE This is NOT printed 
+            
+            // if let BotAction::R(arr) = &*params.curr_act.read().await {
+            // for curriter in 0..5 {
+            //     println!("tester - Routine - Completed Iterations : {}",
+            //         arr.read().await.complete_iterations);
+            //     println!("tester - Custom Loop - Completed Iterations : {}",
+            //     curriter);
+            //     sleep(Duration::from_secs_f64(0.5)).await;
+            //     }
+            // }
+        }
+        
+    }
+
+
+
+
+    botlog::debug(
+        format!("RTESTBODY : module - {:?} ; channel - {:?}",
+            module,channel
+            ).as_str(),
+        Some("experiment003 > test3_body".to_string()),
+        Some(&params.msg),
+    );
+
+
+
+    let a = Routine::from(
+        "Routine Test".to_string(), 
+        module, 
+        channel.unwrap(), 
+        routine_attr,
+        exec_body, 
+        params.clone()
+    ).await;
+
+
+
+    if let Ok(newr) = a {
+
+        // NOTE : The below is a "Playing aound" feature
+        // In the below, we're unnecessarily adjusting the ExecBodyParams of the parent
+
+        // To get the reference to the Routine or the BotAction there are now refernces to itself
+
+        // [ ] before execute , be sure to adjust curr_act
+
+        // let mut params_mut = params;
+        let newr_ar = newr.clone();
+
+        // params_mut.curr_act = Arc::new(RwLock::new(
+        //     BotAction::R(newr_ar.clone())
+        // ));
+
+
+        // {
+        //     newr_ar.write().await.parent_params = params_mut.clone();
+        // }
+
+        let rslt = Routine::start(newr_ar.clone()).await;
+
+        // let rslt = newr_ar.read().await.start().await;
+
+        let rsltstr = match rslt {
+            Ok(_) => "successful".to_string(),
+            Err(a) => a,
+        };
+
+
+        botlog::debug(
+            format!("TEST3_BODY RESULT : {:?}",
+                rsltstr
+                ).as_str(),
+            Some("experiment003 > test3_body".to_string()),
+            Some(&params.msg),
+        );
+
+        Log::flush();
+
+        let bot = Arc::clone(&params.bot);
+
+        let botlock = bot.read().await;
+
+        // uses chat.say_in_reply_to() for the bot controls for messages
+        botlock
+        .botmgrs
+        .chat
+        .say_in_reply_to(
+            &params.msg, 
+            format!("Routine Result : {:?}",rsltstr),
+            params.clone()
+        ).await;
+
+        // [x] Will not be handling JoinHandles here . If immediate abort() handling is required, below is an example that works
+        /*
+
+
+        let a = newr.clone().read().await.join_handle.clone();
+        match a {
+            Some(b) => {
+                b.read().await.borrow().abort(); // [x] <-- This aborts if wanting to abort immediately
+                //()
+            },
+            None => (),
+        }
+
+        */
+
+
+    }
+
+
+    Log::flush();
+
+    
+}
+
+
+
+
+
+async fn good_girl(params : ExecBodyParams) {
+
+    // [ ] Uses gen_ratio() to output bool based on a ratio probability .
+    //   - For example gen_ratio(2,3) is 2 out of 3 or 0.67% (numerator,denomitator)
+    //   - More Info : https://rust-random.github.io/rand/rand/trait.Rng.html#method.gen_ratio
+
+    if params.msg.sender.name.to_lowercase() == "ModulatingForce".to_lowercase()
+        || params.msg.sender.name.to_lowercase() == "mzNToRi".to_lowercase()
+    {
+        botlog::debug(
+            "Good Girl Detected > Pausechamp",
+            Some("experiments > goodgirl()".to_string()),
+            Some(&params.msg),
+        );
+
+        let rollwin = rand::thread_rng().gen_ratio(1, 10);
+
+        if rollwin {
+            botlog::debug(
+                "Oh that's a good girl!",
+                Some("experiments > goodgirl()".to_string()),
+                Some(&params.msg),
+            );
+
+            let bot = Arc::clone(&params.bot);
+
+
+            let botlock = bot.read().await;
+
+            // uses chat.say_in_reply_to() for the bot controls for messages
+            botlock
+            .botmgrs
+            .chat
+            .say_in_reply_to(
+                &params.msg, 
+                String::from("GoodGirl xdd "),
+                params.clone()
+            ).await;
+
+
+        }
+    }
+}
+
+async fn testy(params : ExecBodyParams) {
+    println!("testy triggered!"); // NOTE : This test function intends to print (e.g., to stdout) at fn call
+    botlog::debug(
+        "testy triggered!",
+        Some("experiments > testy()".to_string()),
+        Some(&params.msg),
+    );
+}
+
+
+async fn babygirl(params : ExecBodyParams) {
+
+
+    println!("babygirl triggered!"); // NOTE : This test function intends to print (e.g., to stdout) at fn call
+    botlog::debug(
+        "babygirl triggered!",
+        Some("experiments > babygirl()".to_string()),
+        Some(&params.msg),
+    );
+
+
+    let bot = Arc::clone(&params.bot);
+
+    let botlock = bot.read().await;
+
+
+    botlock
+        .botmgrs
+        .chat
+        .say_in_reply_to(
+            &params.msg, 
+            String::from("16:13 notohh: cafdk"),
+            params.clone()
+        ).await;
+
+
+    sleep(Duration::from_secs_f64(0.5)).await;
+
+    botlock
+    .botmgrs
+    .chat
+    .say_in_reply_to(
+        &params.msg, 
+        String::from("16:13 notohh: have fun eating princess"),
+        params.clone()
+    ).await;
+
+
+    sleep(Duration::from_secs_f64(2.0)).await;
+
+    botlock
+    .botmgrs
+    .chat
+    .say_in_reply_to(
+        &params.msg, 
+        String::from("16:13 notohh: baby girl"),
+        params.clone()
+    ).await;
+
+
+
+}
+
+
+async fn routinelike(params : ExecBodyParams) {
+    println!("routinelike triggered!"); // NOTE : This test function intends to print (e.g., to stdout) at fn call
+    botlog::debug(
+        "routinelike triggered!",
+        Some("experiments > routinelike()".to_string()),
+        Some(&params.msg),
+    );
+
+    // spawn an async block that runs independently from others
+
+    tokio::spawn( async {
+        for _ in 0..5 {
+            println!(">> Innterroutine triggered!");
+            sleep(Duration::from_secs_f64(5.0)).await;
+            }   
+        }
+    );
+
+    // lines are executed after in conjunction to the spawn 
+
+}
+